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Message Posted: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 @ 18:29:04 GMT

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Hi again-

Thanks for the history lesson, I was led to believe that MP-RAS was an outcropping of the AT&T code that ran the switches (i forget the models now). And that NCR had walked away from teh AT&T parting with a lot of good parts of SVR4 in their pocket, so to speak. They supposedly went on to add on some of the RAS pieces, and worked to make Teradata run on it. I believe that were a number of add-ons and other designs that were done to make that happen.

I understand the anger with the compiler, it does suck, C++ exceptionally so. But the C that I've done on MP-RAS has been more tahn reasonable in comparison to some other OSes (Ultrix, OSF/1, DG-UX, etc.), so I have to say that it ranks over those even for it's age. And I'm as disappointed as anyone at the lack of support out of NCR for updates and such, I have some standalone servers that run MP-RAS, but with a decent amount of work, they are more secure and (IMHO), better focused on their workload than the comparable unix boxes from other vendors that we have in house.

In the end, my point is that MP-RAS is not a horrible thing to run Teradata on for now, from my previous coments, yes, I would LOVE to see something different that is actually MAINTAINED, but failing that (and obviously that's the case), MP-RAS is liveable and runs Teradata, because nothing else will the same uptimes and RAS pieces as unix (I know there's a Windows port, I just don't consider it reasonable to run a globablly available 24x365 database on Windows). I understand the annoyance of the developers, the toolset is old, a lot of what you ahve to do to make the product work for clients is to work with old and sometimes painful tools that don't do what they should and no one can fix or update them.

I don't have to live in that world, and I'm glad I don't, but I do also try to let our vendors know that I understand some of their pain when we ask them if something works on MP-RAS. We rarely do that anymore, instead the app servers are separate boxes that run an updated OS, and we leave MP-RAS to the task of running Teradata.

Thanks for your inforamtion, and I do appreciate your position and your points,

loadc

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