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Message Posted: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 @ 21:55:26 GMT

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Subj:   Is Advertising to List Members SPAM?
From:   Michael Larkins

Hi All:

I am a bit confused and looking for input from Members of the T-DATA List. It is my hope that you might share thoughts on this subject.

We now know an individual sent an email and that some of the people receiving that email are members on the TDATA List Server. However, not everyone on the List received the email, yet it is defined as SPAM abuse of the List. Evidently, the "SPAMMER" did not use the List Server to distribute the email in question, since I did not receive it.

The List is intended to share questions, answers and general information regarding Teradata to make the lives of ALL members easier and more productive. I have seen the announcement of new products and their availability as "Beta" using the List Server for the distribution. I do not remember any backlash from those emails.

Yesterday, EVERYONE on the List received an email that advertised NCR's new Beta tests for certification and ADVERTISED their WEB SITE and ADVERTISED their Educational offerings. This email not only used ALL the members of the List, it used the compute time and resources of the T-DATA List Server as the delivery media.

Is this not SPAM against the ALL members of the List? Is this not an abuse of the List Server itself?

For equal treatment, has this NCR employee been ejected from the List? I hope there are no dual standards. If there are dual standards, lets distribute them so that everyone understands the "rules" before anyone else is ejected.

The ejected "SPAMMER" has offered educational courses for Teradata for many years. He has contributed to Partners via presentations, MC of the Golf Tournament, a book signing, and trained NCR employees on their presentation skills. He is also an NCR VAR with his own email lists. So, did he abuse the List Server? His contacts came from years of work regarding the advancement of the Teradata RDBMS and its use.

I feel that maybe a unilateral and arbitary decision was made regarding this event and the consequence directed at one individual. Is it right to allow one individual, one organization or one company a privilege and not make it available to ALL members?

To be totally fair: either the first individual should be restored to the List, or the second individual should also be ejected.

As members of the List, what do you think?

Best regards,

Mike Larkins

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